How to Dial In "Even If You Win, You're Still a Rat" by Architects - Guitar Tone Settings
Gear for "Even If You Win, You're Still a Rat"
Suggested rig · the original isn't documented.
Knob Positions, Pickup, and Tuning
Where to set the knobs for this tone. Each value is on the standard 0–10 amp scale.
On your amp, these numbers won't sound the same.
Get the settings for my ampHow the artist had their guitar configured for this take.
From Daybreaker (2012). Daybreaker is the fifth studio album by English metalcore band Architects. No source we found ties a guitar or amp to this recording, so an ESP E-II Eclipse through an EVH 5150III 100W, the rig we use for Architects' other songs from Daybreaker, stands in. Set the amp to a driven, high-gain crunch and use the bridge pickup. Published transcriptions put it in C♯ standard (C♯ F♯ B E G♯ C♯), three half steps below standard.
Common Questions About the "Even If You Win, You're Still a Rat" Tone
What guitar did Architects use on "Even If You Win, You're Still a Rat"?
The guitar on "Even If You Win, You're Still a Rat" (released 2012) isn't documented; the ESP E-II Eclipse above gets the sound. Pickup selector: bridge pickup on the guitar. The track is in C♯ Standard (C♯ F♯ B E G♯ C♯), so retune before you dial anything in.
What amp settings does "Even If You Win, You're Still a Rat" need?
Settings for this sound: Gain 8, Bass 6, Mid 5, Treble 6.5, Presence 6.5, Volume 7. Each value is on the standard 0–10 amp scale; match them on your amp first, then nudge to taste. ToneMirror can translate these positions for whatever amp you actually own.
Can I play "Even If You Win, You're Still a Rat" without the original gear?
Yes. ToneMirror takes the settings above and adapts it to your guitar, amp, and pedals - so you can chase the "Even If You Win, You're Still a Rat" tone on a Katana, a Helix, a tube combo, or anything else. The translation accounts for EQ curve, gain structure, and pickup type so the result actually sounds like the record, not just the same knob numbers on different gear.
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