Lovehatetragedy album cover - Papa Roach
Guitar tone settings

How to Dial In "Never Said It" by Papa Roach - Guitar Tone Settings

The rig

Gear for "Never Said It"

Suggested rig · the original isn't documented.

The settings

Knob Positions, Pickup, and Tuning

Amp settings

Where to set the knobs for this tone. Each value is on the standard 0–10 amp scale.

Gain7.5
Bass6.5
Mid5
Treble6.5
Presence6
Volume7

On your amp, these numbers won't sound the same.

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Guitar setup

How the artist had their guitar configured for this take.

Pickup selector
NeckNk+MdMiddleBr+MdBridge
Guitar knobs
Tone8
Volume10
Recording notes

From Lovehatetragedy (2002). Lovehatetragedy is a studio album by the American rock band Papa Roach, released on 18 June 2002 by DreamWorks Records. The album's personnel list credits Jerry Horton with guitar. No source we found ties a guitar or amp to this recording, so a Schecter Jerry Horton Tempest (Papa Roach) through a Mesa Boogie Dual Rectifier, the rig we use for Papa Roach's other songs from Lovehatetragedy, stands in. Set the amp to a driven, high-gain crunch and use the bridge pickup.

FAQ

Common Questions About the "Never Said It" Tone

  1. What guitar did Papa Roach use on "Never Said It"?

    The guitar on "Never Said It" (released 2002) isn't documented; the Schecter Jerry Horton Tempest (Papa Roach) above gets the sound. Pickup selector: bridge pickup on the guitar.

  2. What amp settings does "Never Said It" need?

    Settings for this sound: Gain 7.5, Bass 6.5, Mid 5, Treble 6.5, Presence 6, Volume 7. Each value is on the standard 0–10 amp scale; match them on your amp first, then nudge to taste. ToneMirror can translate these positions for whatever amp you actually own.

  3. Can I play "Never Said It" without the original gear?

    Yes. ToneMirror takes the settings above and adapts it to your guitar, amp, and pedals - so you can chase the "Never Said It" tone on a Katana, a Helix, a tube combo, or anything else. The translation accounts for EQ curve, gain structure, and pickup type so the result actually sounds like the record, not just the same knob numbers on different gear.

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